Subject	Coz, Specialty Z, and Z1 are different from Ash.
Posted by	eriksu9 on February 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM
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In Reply To	yay more excuses posted by aliaZ on February 12, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Message	The first 3 I named are more parts suppliers than they are R+D although I know Greg@ SPecialty Z does do some testing and new product analysis. They out source their new product innovations or simply buy from someone like Ash or Mike Smith who has already produced the product. I am sure they make innovations from time to time, but they do not perform the same tasks. Ash is more R+D engineering while the 3 listed are more parts and service suppliers imho. Ash does ALL R+D, testing, sourcing of materials/ machine shops, etc in house. They are different.. http://www.members.aol.com/eriksu9/images/1badz.jpg" BORDER=0> ****472 RWHP/461 TORQUE ON 110 RACE GAS @21 PSI ****438 RWHP ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS/STOCK MOTOR**** ****429 FT LBS/TQ******************************* Also own: 2001 Harley Davidson Custom Softail Deuce 1997 Ford Explorer XLT V8 AWD 1993 300ZX 2+2 NA 1991 Yamaha YZ250 1985 Ford Bronco 3" lift, 35" Tires Sold: 1986 Yamaha FJ1100 1987 Nissan 300zx na(Z31) 1979 280ZX 2+2 1972 MGB 1968 Pontiac Firebird 1972 Nissan 240Z, dual webber carbs, etc
Follow Ups	An honest question for AshSpec - SaucyTabasco 19:13:47 02/11/08 I couldn't read all of that - awesom-o 19:17:44 02/11/08 Not to mention the rhetoric about all of the bashing that - Dave N 19:53:55 02/11/08 We could send people here: - SactoTodd 20:07:23 02/11/08 Never heard of that site. Thanks. (n/m) - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 20:48:39 02/11/08 post a few days back about it. - gt300zxtt 21:38:14 02/11/08 can someone cliff note this please (n/m) - Gizmo 19:21:20 02/11/08 Email down? - SactoTodd 19:23:35 02/11/08 word (n/m) - 550HPTT 19:24:38 02/11/08 Or is it??? (n/m) - Spongerider :) 19:32:40 02/11/08 I'm sure he isn't the only one wondering - na300zx (OH) 19:45:53 02/11/08 The problem is it will quickly devolve into two sides - Dave N 20:01:09 02/11/08 "played out" are the right words - awesom-o 20:10:49 02/11/08 I know it's been ongoing - na300zx (OH) 20:12:31 02/11/08 if others are wondering, they should call/email too. - SactoTodd 20:04:32 02/11/08 could've fooled me....sticky plz (n/m) - LJZTT 20:23:45 02/11/08 HUGE 2nd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (n/m) - Zski 22:51:59 02/11/08 what exactly did you purchase from ash? (n/m) - shaZam 19:26:50 02/11/08 Did you read the post? - aliaZ 19:39:36 02/11/08 I sent him my NA ECU and a 16 bit Ash Spec Eprom I bought - BadAzZ32 21:46:00 02/11/08 A leopard can't change his spots. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 19:29:01 02/11/08 Four score and seven years ago... (snooze)zzzzzz (n/m) - AZHeat 19:49:34 02/11/08 Cliffs... - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 19:49:42 02/11/08 thanks (n/m) - Zski 20:02:06 02/11/08 haha +3 (n/m) - TriniTT 23:20:42 02/11/08 I havent bought from him for this very reason... - Josef(Houston) 20:13:10 02/11/08 Too many people & too many forums to handle. - Pilot.P (NZ) 20:19:29 02/11/08 I'd bet one email and one phone number..... (n/m) - SactoTodd 10:18:05 02/12/08 dude, I don't publicly ask Bill Gates what's up with Vista - LJZTT 20:22:51 02/11/08 Re: dude, I don't publicly ask Bill Gates what's up with Vista - movenu 21:08:36 02/11/08 I just don't recall TTnet ever being classified as the - LJZTT 21:38:25 02/11/08 your analogy was azz backwards though ;) - gt300zxtt 21:49:44 02/11/08 i know (n/m) - LJZTT 10:53:17 02/12/08 What squeeky wheel?.... grease?...@!%*Im confused!@*& (n/m) - ELDIABLOTT 08:22:46 02/12/08 Short answer, he treats it like a hobby instead of - AZHeat 21:08:53 02/11/08 Sad but true. (n/m) - doug8867 21:44:34 02/11/08 I'll continue to buy from him, got quick fast above & beyond - Crim 21:41:36 02/11/08 Even a broken clock is right twice a day. (n/m) - AZHeat 22:09:45 02/11/08 Not if it's digital, ZING! (n/m) - inf 23:00:20 02/11/08 flashes 1200... it is. (n/m) - Halo Z 23:08:54 02/11/08 then it's working, just not set. (n/m) - inf 23:10:19 02/11/08 broken is all relative.. if the "set" buttons are broken? (n/m) - Halo Z 23:31:43 02/11/08 but then wouldn't that just be the set buttons broken - inf 23:34:17 02/11/08 they are part of the larger assembly - Halo Z 23:49:11 02/11/08 do not feed the trolls :) (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 07:15:16 02/12/08 my bad (n/m) - Halo Z 10:24:30 02/12/08 do not feed the monkeys (n/m) - inf 14:20:00 02/12/08 Uh - TriniTT 23:15:10 02/11/08 Please refrain from posting if you cant add value to the - SaucyTabasco 02:59:50 02/12/08 yay more excuses - aliaZ 08:16:18 02/12/08 Coz, Specialty Z, and Z1 are different from Ash. - eriksu9 09:58:58 02/12/08 Re: Coz, Specialty Z, and Z1 are different from Ash. - SactoTodd 10:06:39 02/12/08 lol.. Z1 returns phone calls? :) - eriksu9 10:17:29 02/12/08 thanks for that deep analysis (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:34:49 02/12/08 George, George, George of the jungle, Watch out for that - eriksu9 10:47:26 02/12/08 my niece calls me George of the jungle, she's 6. (n/m) - ZEngineer 11:03:39 02/12/08 That is what I figured. - eriksu9 12:17:13 02/12/08 I'm glad we agree that you have the mind of a 6 year old (n/m) - ZEngineer 12:52:12 02/12/08 Yes. I do have the mind of a 6 yr old - eriksu9 13:13:48 02/12/08 ? do what lol ? (n/m) - 550HPTT 14:10:41 02/12/08 Lol is an understatement...Happy reading. :) - eriksu9 14:32:19 02/12/08 I said something idiotic, yet ultimately... - ZEngineer 22:38:58 02/12/08 that is no excuse - aliaZ 11:11:14 02/12/08 Point taken. - eriksu9 12:26:39 02/12/08 Actually, SZ was a one man operation for most of it - SeedyROM 14:36:49 02/12/08 You have it wrong sir. - eriksu9 14:52:26 02/12/08 That's true, you did. - SeedyROM 15:15:39 02/12/08 I dont know man. I have never said "He's a one man shop, - eriksu9 15:50:09 02/12/08 Notice that Mike Smith doesn't really deal w. end users? - Bernie (NoVA) 23:13:42 02/12/08 That quote is a run on sentence. (n/m) - AZHeat 08:36:07 02/12/08 "He's human. Deal with it." So we should turn a blind eye - Dave N 10:43:19 02/12/08 grumpy old man (n/m) - ZEngineer 11:36:52 02/12/08 That beats being a frozen canuckistanian. ;-) (n/m) - Dave N 12:15:10 02/12/08 Well said (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:30:15 02/12/08 if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck its probably a - 5280Z_nightstalker 01:29:55 02/12/08 Judge a man on the path he has walked - Adam (NoVA) 07:16:46 02/12/08 Oh great sensei, teach me to be wise like you (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 07:29:51 02/12/08 V T D (n/m) - spicyZ 09:44:24 02/12/08
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